Scarlet Rig under $25,000 possible?

Intersectionality Films · 12-03-2011, 07:01 PM

Hi everyone. I have 2 questions. I have $50,000 in my budget to buy 2 Scarlet cameras, but that budget needs to include lenses and all of the pieces that make the Scarlets useable together. Can a moderator or senior member please take a few minutes to list everything I would need to purchase from Red.com and let me know if that budget will be enough? As for the 2nd question, can someone tell me if there is a Windows laptop computer in existence that can, without modification, handle all of the workflow for production and post production while using the 2 Scarlet cameras mentioned above? We're making a documentary and need to be mobile with laptops. Thanks in advance!

studiomusic · 12-04-2011, 05:21 PM

Easily done for $50k.
2X Scarlet Canon mount packages @ $14,015 http://www.red.com/store/scarlet/pro...-mount-package = $28,030
2X Canon EF 17-40mm L Lenses @ $707 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._f_4L_USM.html = $1,414
Grand total= $29,444
Let's say $30k for tax and shipping...
That's everything you need to be up and shooting.
That leaves you $20k for extra SSD cards, Redvolts and even a set of prime Canon lenses if you want.
Now if you want PL mount cine lenses, you bump up in price compared to Canon glass.

As for the laptop question, any newer laptop can handle RED files with RedCineX. It will just take a while to process files. http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...-RED-quot-Myth
The only real way to get around the processing time is to get a Red Rocket card.

studiomusic · 12-04-2011, 05:26 PM

Good luck getting all of that shipped to you within the next 2 months (at least) though.

fde101 · 12-05-2011, 03:46 AM

You may be forgetting support equipment -- tripod, etc...

Get a Mac laptop instead.

Intersectionality Films · 12-05-2011, 01:39 PM

Great feedback! Thanks! Looks like it might be around $50,000 for 2 working rigs - with all the accessories needed to store data and render efficiently. I will be getting footage on the road around Michigan for about 12 months and will have a TON of 4K data to store. For this documentary, it would be great if I could, each night while I'm sleeping, upload the data to a safe cloud every night so I could use an empty SSD card every day for interviews and scenic location shots. Any thoughts on giant amounts of raw data and how to store it while travelling?

prendi · 12-05-2011, 02:40 PM

Is there a need for a poll? Is this not a simple case of getting the calculator out and being realistic about what you need and want? You can get a full set of FD lenses cine mod style, for around $3000, so that saves some cash. Not sure I'd want to do that to a 4k sensor though

johnvid · 12-05-2011, 04:42 PM

50k saved for camera gear, can't afford a calculator, haven't got the laptops yet, either that or their not allowed in school

Maybe he's Amish

http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/10/view/18131/devorah-sperber-american-gothic-thread-works.html

Sean Lee · 12-05-2011, 10:05 PM

hah

There'll be some beautiful 4K footage of barns being built in spring.

johnvid · 12-05-2011, 10:24 PM

Saw the American Shameless the other night, a refreshing change from the UK one, funnily enough there was an amish girl in that, and it aint all barn building, there's a lot of hay making...Was Abe Lincoln Amish? or just trying to appeal?

View Poll Results: Scarlet Rig Actual Price
Under $15,000	1	12.50%
Over $15,000	1	12.50%
Under $25,000	4	50.00%
Over $25,000	1	12.50%
Under $50,000	1	12.50%
Over $50,000	0	0%
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12-03-2011, 07:01 PM	#1
Intersectionality Films Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2	Scarlet Rig under $25,000 possible? Hi everyone. I have 2 questions. I have $50,000 in my budget to buy 2 Scarlet cameras, but that budget needs to include lenses and all of the pieces that make the Scarlets useable together. Can a moderator or senior member please take a few minutes to list everything I would need to purchase from Red.com and let me know if that budget will be enough? As for the 2nd question, can someone tell me if there is a Windows laptop computer in existence that can, without modification, handle all of the workflow for production and post production while using the 2 Scarlet cameras mentioned above? We're making a documentary and need to be mobile with laptops. Thanks in advance!

12-04-2011, 05:21 PM	#2
studiomusic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, sometimes France Posts: 89	Easily done for $50k. 2X Scarlet Canon mount packages @ $14,015 http://www.red.com/store/scarlet/pro...-mount-package = $28,030 2X Canon EF 17-40mm L Lenses @ $707 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._f_4L_USM.html = $1,414 Grand total= $29,444 Let's say $30k for tax and shipping... That's everything you need to be up and shooting. That leaves you $20k for extra SSD cards, Redvolts and even a set of prime Canon lenses if you want. Now if you want PL mount cine lenses, you bump up in price compared to Canon glass. As for the laptop question, any newer laptop can handle RED files with RedCineX. It will just take a while to process files. http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...-RED-quot-Myth The only real way to get around the processing time is to get a Red Rocket card. Last edited by studiomusic; 12-04-2011 at 06:21 PM.

12-05-2011, 04:42 PM	#7
johnvid Native Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,918	50k saved for camera gear, can't afford a calculator, haven't got the laptops yet, either that or their not allowed in school Maybe he's Amish http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/10/view/18131/devorah-sperber-american-gothic-thread-works.html __________________ www.videopool.co.uk Last edited by johnvid; 12-22-2011 at 03:50 PM.

12-05-2011, 10:24 PM	#9
johnvid Native Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,918	Saw the American Shameless the other night, a refreshing change from the UK one, funnily enough there was an amish girl in that, and it aint all barn building, there's a lot of hay making...Was Abe Lincoln Amish? or just trying to appeal? __________________ www.videopool.co.uk

12-04-2011, 05:26 PM	#3
studiomusic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, sometimes France Posts: 89	Good luck getting all of that shipped to you within the next 2 months (at least) though.

12-05-2011, 03:46 AM	#4
fde101 Native Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,538	You may be forgetting support equipment -- tripod, etc... Get a Mac laptop instead.

12-05-2011, 01:39 PM	#5
Intersectionality Films Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2	Great feedback! Thanks! Looks like it might be around $50,000 for 2 working rigs - with all the accessories needed to store data and render efficiently. I will be getting footage on the road around Michigan for about 12 months and will have a TON of 4K data to store. For this documentary, it would be great if I could, each night while I'm sleeping, upload the data to a safe cloud every night so I could use an empty SSD card every day for interviews and scenic location shots. Any thoughts on giant amounts of raw data and how to store it while travelling?

12-05-2011, 02:40 PM	#6
prendi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 365	Is there a need for a poll? Is this not a simple case of getting the calculator out and being realistic about what you need and want? You can get a full set of FD lenses cine mod style, for around $3000, so that saves some cash. Not sure I'd want to do that to a 4k sensor though

12-05-2011, 10:05 PM	#8
Sean Lee Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 257	hah There'll be some beautiful 4K footage of barns being built in spring.

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