fixed-lens Scarlet and 3D

Florin Andrei · 09-02-2009, 01:37 AM

Any reason you could imagine why the fixed-lens Scarlet couldn't support 3D shooting mode?

David Gray · 09-02-2009, 02:01 AM

If you have 2 of them given the electronic lens control they're pretty perfect.

Ameer Azari · 09-02-2009, 01:45 PM

Aren't the lenses too big for two Fixed Scarlets to be stuck next to each other?

MattN · 09-02-2009, 01:53 PM

As long as they're not infinitely wide, I don't see a problem.

JonFairhurst · 09-02-2009, 02:11 PM

Ideally, you want the lenses to be as far apart as human eyes. If you are shooting miniatures, you want them even closer together - as close together as the scale-person's eyes.

For 3D, I'd go for the non-fixed camera and some physically small 16mm lenses.

MattN · 09-02-2009, 02:25 PM

Yes, the inter-ocular distance of the average human eye is the most ideal solution. Looks like some primes are on the scarlet's in the picture, but it's not like it won't work if they're further apart.

Peter Mosiman · 09-02-2009, 02:56 PM

yeah they are the proposed 25mm miniREDs

David Gray · 09-02-2009, 04:21 PM

There is so much more visual language that can be created through 3d. By changing things such as the interocular distance.

A really cool concept that was that if you have multiple characters in a comp you can actually film each character with different interocular distances and convergences to make certain characters appear more round and others flat.

I highly recommend checking out the latest fxguidetv where they're discussing stereo film making:
http://www.fxguide.com/fxguidetv.html

Ayoji · 09-03-2009, 09:26 PM

Cab work with Beam-splitter instead of side by side.

Scott R White · 09-03-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayoji

Cab work with Beam-splitter instead of side by side.

exactly, then you've got total interocular control down to 1mm (or less if u gotta??)
Then switch to a side by side rig for stuff outside the 1.5 inch range (landscapes etc)

If the lenses got perfect electronic sync then they should be great in this sort of setup.

09-02-2009, 01:37 AM	#1
Florin Andrei Native Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: California Posts: 42	fixed-lens Scarlet and 3D Any reason you could imagine why the fixed-lens Scarlet couldn't support 3D shooting mode? __________________ Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/

09-02-2009, 02:01 AM	#2
David Gray Native Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: U.K Posts: 2,588	If you have 2 of them given the electronic lens control they're pretty perfect. __________________ Dave Gray - Previously Gravy \| Twitter \| "Try to learn something about everything and everything about something." Thomas H. Huxley "The length of a film should be directly related to the endurance of the human bladder." - Alfred Hitchcock

09-02-2009, 02:11 PM	#5
JonFairhurst Native Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,349	Ideally, you want the lenses to be as far apart as human eyes. If you are shooting miniatures, you want them even closer together - as close together as the scale-person's eyes. For 3D, I'd go for the non-fixed camera and some physically small 16mm lenses. __________________ Jon Fairhurst ~ The Murder of Dirk Snowglobe ~

09-02-2009, 02:56 PM	#7
Peter Mosiman Native Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chicago, US Posts: 1,377	yeah they are the proposed 25mm miniREDs __________________ It isn't the cinematographer who owns the film, but rather the film and its story that owns the cinematographer." -- Anthony Dod Mantle, ASC -- "Lose the ego. Do great work and take pride in it, but don’t be arrogant about how great you think you are." - Chuck Russom Gaffers Unite! - A blog dedicated to lighting/rigging techniques.

09-02-2009, 04:21 PM	#8
David Gray Native Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: U.K Posts: 2,588	There is so much more visual language that can be created through 3d. By changing things such as the interocular distance. A really cool concept that was that if you have multiple characters in a comp you can actually film each character with different interocular distances and convergences to make certain characters appear more round and others flat. I highly recommend checking out the latest fxguidetv where they're discussing stereo film making: http://www.fxguide.com/fxguidetv.html __________________ Dave Gray - Previously Gravy \| Twitter \| "Try to learn something about everything and everything about something." Thomas H. Huxley "The length of a film should be directly related to the endurance of the human bladder." - Alfred Hitchcock

09-02-2009, 01:45 PM	#3
Ameer Azari Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 1,642	Aren't the lenses too big for two Fixed Scarlets to be stuck next to each other?

09-02-2009, 01:53 PM	#4
MattN Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 997	As long as they're not infinitely wide, I don't see a problem.

09-02-2009, 02:25 PM	#6
MattN Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 997	Yes, the inter-ocular distance of the average human eye is the most ideal solution. Looks like some primes are on the scarlet's in the picture, but it's not like it won't work if they're further apart.

09-03-2009, 09:26 PM	#9
Ayoji Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: Westchester NY, USA Posts: 963	Cab work with Beam-splitter instead of side by side. __________________ As much as I would like to have all the gears and whistles or whatever. The image and audio in the end are whats important. I know a tool is just a tool but I'm not talking about that. If I can achieve great results(visually/auditory), I don't care. People don't remember numbers, tech, or whatever else. I certainly don't.

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