This is why I believe Jim said "The market has changed".

Joseph Hutson · 10-04-2008, 04:37 AM

We all know that the features of the new Canon already did not even come close to compare with the original Scarlet. But WHY did Red change suddenly after the Canon 5D Mark II was released?

I believe the reason, is to not only get reach the market that they have been planning to do for the past 2 years, but to ALSO reach the market that the "Canon 5D Mark II" does.

It is not that the people in the video production market have changed, but rather the ''still" market has changed, with Red believing they can they can take something home as well.

I say this all, believing that MY bet says, we will at least have 3K resolution, with a larger resolution of still pictures. I also think that these "stills" will be RAW (maybe not). But the reason why I think this, is because Jim has asked: Which DSLRs record uncompressed? Check closely before you reply. And why would this be more important? I believe he said about the same thing when we were talking about the possibilities of a 3K video camera. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think so.

What else are we going to hear about in November? They might make an announcement about the "much talked about" the extensive 3D development that Red is doing a lot of R&D work for. The reason why this prospect looks so good right now, is because within the last 24 hours, Red has registered the trademark "Red 3D" with the description of:
Cameras, camera lenses, projectors, eyeglasses and software, all for use in the recording and playback of 3D images.

These are exciting times for Red, which of course makes these exciting times for us.

Thanks Red for the devotion, time and effort to make this Scarlet, a BAD girl.

Dances With Cameras · 10-04-2008, 04:52 AM

+ Ikonoskop.

johnvid · 10-04-2008, 04:55 AM

I wonder if the 3D Video would be stereo based or DEPTH MAPPED ie Z-BUFFER with projected video ontop

David Rasberry · 10-04-2008, 06:03 AM

The new digital cinema 3D systems are stereoscopic with alternating eye images projected sequentially and synchronized LCD shutter glasses for the viewer.

dingos8mybaby · 10-04-2008, 07:06 AM

I may be misunderstanding you, I'm pretty sure that one would still need multiple Scarlets (or cameras for that matter) for 3D acquisition. That is, of course, unless Jannard and Co have developed (or are developing) some kind of sensor system which, through an ingenious optical design (like a double-lens-single-camera, or an internal image splitter that captures different right and left fields of view and projects them onto respective parts of the sensor, which are combined to create a single stereoscopic image when digitized), can do 3D in 'camera'. I'm not sure if this is even possible or practical given current camera and optical technologies. Besides, a lot of companies try to safeguard their future ideas by registering even the most trivial ones (as Red has done in the past).
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roxics · 10-04-2008, 07:33 AM

http://hight3ch.com/post/adobes-3d-lens-19-images-in-1/

http://wileywiggins.blogspot.com/200...camcorder.html

The age of the SL3D camera is coming.

Granty · 10-04-2008, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roxics

http://hight3ch.com/post/adobes-3d-lens-19-images-in-1/

http://wileywiggins.blogspot.com/200...camcorder.html

The age of the SL3D camera is coming.

Those splitters like on the Canon have been around for a while, but they half the rez, but on a 3-4k camera you would get a super cool 1k image, nightmare to add cgi to two differing shots, headache!

But that Adobe one, wow! I want one, Red have been working close with Abode, would you pay extra if the Scarlet shipped with one of these 3D lens attachments at cost?

I think I would, that is so cool, the depth of field in a real time photo, and the 3D angle, amazing!

dingos8mybaby · 10-04-2008, 08:07 AM

So cool. Glad to see that 3D won't be synonomous with cheesy drive-in movies pretty soon.
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Pietro Impagliazzo · 10-04-2008, 08:43 AM

Ok...
I know some people want 3D.

But I just want a regular camera.

Granty · 10-04-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impagliazzo

Ok...
I know some people want 3D.

But I just want a regular camera.

When people talk of Z-field capture it isn't mainly for 3D, but for CGI, you can do vitual magic with that extra data, brill for comping.

10-04-2008, 04:37 AM	#1
Joseph Hutson Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: Where you wish you were... Posts: 2,755	This is why I believe Jim said "The market has changed". We all know that the features of the new Canon already did not even come close to compare with the original Scarlet. But WHY did Red change suddenly after the Canon 5D Mark II was released? I believe the reason, is to not only get reach the market that they have been planning to do for the past 2 years, but to ALSO reach the market that the "Canon 5D Mark II" does. It is not that the people in the video production market have changed, but rather the ''still" market has changed, with Red believing they can they can take something home as well. I say this all, believing that MY bet says, we will at least have 3K resolution, with a larger resolution of still pictures. I also think that these "stills" will be RAW (maybe not). But the reason why I think this, is because Jim has asked: Which DSLRs record uncompressed? Check closely before you reply. And why would this be more important? I believe he said about the same thing when we were talking about the possibilities of a 3K video camera. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think so. What else are we going to hear about in November? They might make an announcement about the "much talked about" the extensive 3D development that Red is doing a lot of R&D work for. The reason why this prospect looks so good right now, is because within the last 24 hours, Red has registered the trademark "Red 3D" with the description of: Cameras, camera lenses, projectors, eyeglasses and software, all for use in the recording and playback of 3D images. These are exciting times for Red, which of course makes these exciting times for us. Thanks Red for the devotion, time and effort to make this Scarlet, a BAD girl. __________________ SERVICES \| I shoot stuff. I connect people with other people and gear. I find answers when you ask questions. CONTACT \| JosephHutson@Gmail.com The answer is "No" 100% of the time you don't ask. Trying to know everything is not my first priority. Surrounding myself with those who do know everything is. For #R3D Tips/Hints/News... @HUTSON on Twitter

10-04-2008, 04:52 AM	#2
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10-04-2008, 04:55 AM	#3
johnvid Native Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,918	I wonder if the 3D Video would be stereo based or DEPTH MAPPED ie Z-BUFFER with projected video ontop __________________ www.videopool.co.uk

10-04-2008, 07:06 AM	#5
dingos8mybaby Native Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 275	I may be misunderstanding you, I'm pretty sure that one would still need multiple Scarlets (or cameras for that matter) for 3D acquisition. That is, of course, unless Jannard and Co have developed (or are developing) some kind of sensor system which, through an ingenious optical design (like a double-lens-single-camera, or an internal image splitter that captures different right and left fields of view and projects them onto respective parts of the sensor, which are combined to create a single stereoscopic image when digitized), can do 3D in 'camera'. I'm not sure if this is even possible or practical given current camera and optical technologies. Besides, a lot of companies try to safeguard their future ideas by registering even the most trivial ones (as Red has done in the past). ________ drug testing Last edited by dingos8mybaby; 01-28-2011 at 10:51 PM.

10-04-2008, 08:07 AM	#8
dingos8mybaby Native Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 275	So cool. Glad to see that 3D won't be synonomous with cheesy drive-in movies pretty soon. ________ volcano vaporizer review Last edited by dingos8mybaby; 01-28-2011 at 10:51 PM.

10-04-2008, 06:03 AM	#4
David Rasberry Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Easley, SC Posts: 3,150	The new digital cinema 3D systems are stereoscopic with alternating eye images projected sequentially and synchronized LCD shutter glasses for the viewer.

10-04-2008, 07:33 AM	#6
roxics Native Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 42	http://hight3ch.com/post/adobes-3d-lens-19-images-in-1/ http://wileywiggins.blogspot.com/200...camcorder.html The age of the SL3D camera is coming.

10-04-2008, 08:43 AM	#9
Pietro Impagliazzo Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rio de Janeiro, BR Posts: 2,363	Ok... I know some people want 3D. But I just want a regular camera. __________________ Acintyah khalu ye bhava na tams tarkena yojayet There's no use arguing over that which is inconceivable Pietro Impagliazzo vimeo.com/impa impagliazzo.500px.com

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