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Old 09-22-2008, 12:03 AM   #11
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Jim , I just got half way in saving for Scarlet. Am I still half way? I am always pleased to see your posts however vague the info may be. Thanks for building cams for us.
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2009 is still on. We get more excited every day. If we were a public company, our shareholders would shoot us in the back of the head right after they filed a shareholder's lawsuit. But if you can make something measurably better in the same timeframe... why would you not?

We are learning at a rapid pace. This will be like getting a second generation camera instead of a 1st generation. Actually, much bigger than that.

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Old 09-22-2008, 12:06 AM   #13
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Just when I thought you couldn't possibly shake things up more.
Never thought you'd pull the rug out like this... as it was we felt like we knew so little...
and now even that's out the door.

I love it.


So - any idea when we'll have an idea of what the new idea is?
(can't hurt to ask, right?)
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I'm not surprised, I knew Scarlet would never fly. Come on: 3K, RAW, 2/3", 120 FPS for $3K? Madness. Obviously, RED has realized that the established method product development is more profitable. The 1080i 1/3" MPEG-2 cameras sell just fine with tiny, incremental improvements and a little warm-over every few years.

Can I just ask that you try to break mold a little bit? Go for a 50 mbps MPEG-2 codec instead of the usual 25 mbps. And it would be nice to see 1/2" sensors in a $3K camera instead of the usual 1/3". If you really want to rock the boat, try for 60 FPS.
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Red likes to shake things up. More specifically, Jim likes to shake things up.
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2009 is still on. We get more excited every day. If we were a public company, our shareholders would shoot us in the back of the head right after they filed a shareholder's lawsuit. But if you can make something measurably better in the same timeframe... why would you not?

We are learning at a rapid pace. This will be like getting a second generation camera instead of a 1st generation. Actually, much bigger than that.

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I guess we should have seen this coming after Epic's specs were thrown out the window too.
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I'm not surprised, I knew Scarlet would never fly. Come on: 3K, RAW, 2/3", 120 FPS for $3K? Madness. Obviously, RED has realized that the established method product development is more profitable. The 1080i 1/3" MPEG-2 cameras sell just fine with tiny, incremental improvements and a little warm-over every few years.

Can I just ask that you try to break mold a little bit? Go for a 50 mbps MPEG-2 codec instead of the usual 25 mbps. And it would be nice to see 1/2" sensors in a $3K camera instead of the usual 1/3". If you really want to rock the boat, try for 60 FPS.


Oh this looks like bait
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I'm not surprised, I knew Scarlet would never fly. Come on: 3K, RAW, 2/3", 120 FPS for $3K? Madness. Obviously, RED has realized that the established method product development is more profitable. The 1080i 1/3" MPEG-2 cameras sell just fine with tiny, incremental improvements and a little warm-over every few years.
I seriously doubt that is the case.

The specs for Scarlet were what they were - stepping back from that now would be ridiculous.
The bar was set, and set high....and RED isn't a company to knock it back down.

My guess is, the bar is going higher in regards to specs, not lower.
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I have a big grin on my face. But I still hope it will stay affordable.
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